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Feb 03, 12 04:00AM | 0 comments

Alex Chernavsky, who has used the Shangri-La Diet successfully for two years, recently commented as follows (emphasis added):

For what it’s worth, I’ve taken Vitamin D at different times of the day, and I’ve never noticed any effect on my sleep. Of course, my sleep is already pretty good, in the sense that I fall asleep quickly and don’t usually wake up during the night. (My sleep is not good in the sense that I don’t get enough of it.)

By email, I learned that Alex is now taking Vitamin D3 — this particular product, which is vegan (“plant-source”) — at 5000 IU every other day. On weekdays, he takes it at about 8:00 am, on weekends, 9:30-10:00 am.

What might explain Alex’s failure to notice better sleep?

1. Not enough D3. I found that 2000 IU/day had no noticeable effect, whereas 4000 IU/day did produce noticeable benefit. Alex is getting 2500 IU/day — or less, if he takes it too late on the weekends.

2. His source of D3.

3. Individual differences large enough to matter. If you do sensitive psychology experiments, you will learn there are individual differences in everything.

4. Ceiling effect. Alex’s sleep is too good to notice improvement.

Those are the just the obvious possibilities.

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  • (Comment from original source - Francesco) on Feb 03, 12 05:13AM

    I also didn’t see an effect. Tried 2000 and 4000. Low-quality sleep in either case. I use Duane Reid gelcaps. No effect of standing on both legs or on just one (to exhaustion). I guess I am hopeless

  • (Comment from original source - Paul) on Feb 03, 12 07:32AM

    5. Vitamin D3 doesn’t improve sleep.

    Should be included for the sake of intellectual cleanliness.

  • (Comment from original source - David) on Feb 03, 12 07:45AM

    Since you started posting these, I’ve been taking D3 in the mornings and notice that I wake up much more easily. I started with just 400 IU, then increased to 800 IU. One day I took 1200 IU and woke up at 4:00 AM the next day. I’ve gone back to 800 IU since 4:00 AM seems a bit early. For the past week, I’ve also been giving one of my daughters (11 years old) 400 IU each morning, and she seems easier to wake up in the morning (normally it’s quite difficult).

    Sorry I’m too lazy to keep detailed records. I’m taking NOW Softgels.

    I do wonder if there would be an initial effect that goes away over time as your body adjusts.

  • (Comment from original source - David J) on Feb 03, 12 09:55AM

    Lack of fat. You need fat present to absorb the D3.

    I’ve been taking A,D3 & K2, chased down with Jersey cream for 1 week. I think I have improved sleep, but it’s very subjective.

  • (Comment from original source - Randy Knudson) on Feb 03, 12 10:47AM

    Seth- I started taking D-3 4000 IU, this week. My sleep has definitely gotten much better. I typically have no problem falling asleep, but wake up at 12, 2 and 4. Last night I slept until 2:30 and overall feel like I’m much more rested. One thing I have experienced which has not been mentioned is that my dreams are much more vivid, and I recall them more easily.
    Thanks for alerting me to this very interesting and useful nutritional idea.

  • (Comment from original source - Chris U) on Feb 03, 12 01:56PM

    I suspect that those already replete with vit D will not see an effect. Anybody who is taking vit D should have their blood levels tested from time to time both to avoid toxicity (rare but possible) and to provide some insight to the dose required to achieve a target blood level. The folks at grassrootshealth have some good info on target levels and how to choose dosage.

  • (Comment from original source - David) on Feb 03, 12 09:03PM

    For the last 4 weeks, I’ve been eating within 30min of waking up and taking 4000 IU D3 (Kirkland brand, just like Elizabeth from story #11) along with a multivitamin. I am trying to get my body to wake up, rested and energetic, at 6:00 am everyday. This regimen has not helped me wake up any easier. In fact, this last week I’ve had to skip eating breakfast in order to not be late for work.

    I did take 10,000 IU of D3 one day. I had a tremendous initial bust of energy. I literally could not sit down for the next 3 hours. But it was not any easier to get out of bed the next morning.

    My number one desire right now is to improve my ability to get up early. I had high hopes for the early breakfast/D3 combo. I’m pretty frustrated that it has not worked for me. I’m not sure what to try next.

  • (Comment from original source - Adrien) on Feb 03, 12 10:52PM

    I have not tried vitamin D as a means to sleep improvement. As I know vitamin D has little or no effect on sleep.

  • (Comment from original source - Seth Roberts) on Feb 04, 12 03:59AM

    For the last 4 weeks, I’ve been eating within 30min of waking up and taking 4000 IU D3

    I discovered long ago that eating breakfast caused me to wake up less rested. You might want to try D3 alone.

  • (Comment from original source - Five Daarstens) on Feb 04, 12 05:42AM

    I’m on 1000 a day D3 in the morning. I have not noticed any difference in sleep, but my rosacea has cleared up considerably.

  • (Comment from original source - David) on Feb 04, 12 12:24PM

    I discovered long ago that eating breakfast caused me to wake up less rested. You might want to try D3 alone.

    I’ll give it a try.

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