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    answered Nov 15, 2010 at 01:48PM
    There is nothing ethical about a death penalty execution itself as legalized by society. To cause death to occur, by law, in an individual who has not even requested to die and at the very same time (in the United States as an example) to deny the opportunity to die by an individual who desires death (suicide or euthanasia) is an irrational societal construction of the laws. When this is then combined with society demanding physicians participate and then physicians or nurses acting contrary to their very own professional code of ethics makes their behavior both of society and those professionals unethical. It is undebatable that the professional's personal beliefs due guide their actions but if that belief leads to unethical behavior, the result becomes even less ethical and more shameful if the professionals (as written in the NEJM article) fail to expose their beliefs and actions to the public and simply decide to remain anonymous. The anonymity, for whatever reason, simply compounds the unethical acts. ..Maurice.
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    answered Nov 15, 2010 at 02:44PM
    So then, can it be said that any physician participating in a death penalty execution is unethical? Why don't state licensing boards sanction those physicians that participate?
    There is an element of societal blood vengeance that supports carrying out of the death penalty, and the life of a prisoner is deemed worthless, whereas an individual who desires death as a personal choice, is deemed worthy of life. Laws are set up to express societal values, which can be primordial in nature, as much as civilization has advanced. Even physicians can be a part of that drive for vengeance, if it is not just a "job". Somehow executioners live with themselves.
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    answered Nov 15, 2010 at 03:08PM
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    Kim, to your question "can it be said that any physician participating in a death penalty execution is unethical?" the answer is yes. And more than that, it has been claimed that a physician who treats a prison patient's psych disorder to bring his mental state to one of "normality"for the only purpose to permit execution or a physician who makes a pre-execution diagnosis of a prisoner's mental state as "normal" again to permit execution is acting professionally unethical.

    I am sure that the decision of state licensing boards with regard to their physician participating in an execution would be related to whether the physician can be identified and the state laws.

    Personally, I think that current methods of execution as they have morphed in recent decades from hanging,firing squad and electrocution to a more "neat" method IV drugs is simply for the protection and lessened emotional stress of those who witness the execution than consideration of the one being executed. I believe that a sudden, quick and certainly final decapitation would provide instant death of the criminal's awareness and life but of course it would be a bit messy and uncomfortable for most folks to watch. ..Maurice.
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    answered Nov 15, 2010 at 03:52PM
    "Personally, I think that current methods of execution as they have morphed in recent decades from hanging,firing squad and electrocution to a more "neat" method IV drugs is simply for the protection and lessened emotional stress of those who witness the execution than consideration of the one being executed. I believe that a sudden, quick and certainly final decapitation would provide instant death of the criminal's awareness and life but of course it would be a bit messy and uncomfortable for most folks to watch. .."

    I am a student of history, particularly World War II history in Europe. My mother lived there at the time. Heinrich Himmler witnessed executions in Minsk, a city I worked in in 1993-94 for the UN. The executions were messy, and it was this fact that led to a "more humane" as the Nazis put it, gas chambers. Not humane for the victims, but for the executioners. Tough point to bring up, but your statement reminds me of this vignette. Need I mention that physicians were involved in executions and experiments at that place and time as well. Are the modern day executioners any different? I am not defending criminals, but perhaps the most henous aspects of medicine can teach us the most about what is right and wrong in medicine. Do no harm.

    You have answered the question well, Dr. Bernstein, from my perspective.
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    answered Nov 16, 2010 at 11:20AM
    Although I am in nearly total agreement with Maurice, I would like to add some points from my own perspective. I am against the death penalty in all cases, but can at least conceive of a rationale in one (which I'll discuss later).

    First, the United States is a nation whose rule of law derives from the consent of the governed. In other words, our governmental authority is (or should be) an extension of individual rights. No person has a right to kill another in this country except in self defense, or in defense of others. Neither one of these conditions apply to a prisoner strapped to a table.

    Secondly, those who argue for a death penalty because of the financial burden of keeping someone locked up for life should read the facts. After all mandatory appeals have been exhausted in capital cases, it costs more to execute people than it does to house them for life.

    Thirdly, we are perceived a barbaric by the remainder of Western societies, in which we are the ONLY nation that retains the death penalty. Most countries will not even agree to extradite a murderer to the US unless the death penalty is taken off the table.

    Fourth, there has never been a ANY proven deterrent effect from the death penalty. Nobody stands at the scene of a robbery and says to themselves, "I won't pull the trigger because they might execute me." In fact, the incidence of homicide is lower in most countries without a death penalty.

    Fifth, we have had to release hundreds of prisoners from death row when we discovered through new techniques (e.g. DNA testing) that they were innocent of the crimes for which they were scheduled for execution. Any human system of justice will make mistakes. If we incarcerate someone and find out we were wrong, we can at least give them back part of their lives. If we kill them, do we bury the pardon with them? Additionally, there will be even newer techniques to add to DNA testing, like functional MRIs that are being shown to be reliable lie detectors. A supreme Court Justice once remarked that the death penalty cannot ever be fairly administered as long as there is even a possibility of an innocent person being executed.

    Finally, all theories of criminal justice rest on one of two concepts; Retribution vs. Rehabilitation. Can we, as a modern, democratic and supposedly rational society base our criminal justice system solely upon the vengeance advocated in various religious texts that originated in early Bronze Age Societies? I think not! While we continue to ignore the rest of the world in not using the Metric system, to do so with regard to the death penalty would be both the height of arrogance, and a stain on our justice system as great as slavery was on our democracy.

    Therefore, I hold that any participation by physicians in a death penalty, including "healing" a patient so they are "well enough" to be executed is inherently unethical and manifestly immoral. Moreover, state medical boards should create specific sanctions for any physician found to have taken part in such an activity, that should include the suspension and/or loss of license. Additionally, I would add that none of what I have stated above has any relationship to physician assisted suicide which is performed on otherwise terminal patients, at their own request, and only after we have made as certain as possible that it was a truly volitional request whose consequences were completely understood.

    If a life is to be taken, the only one we have any right to take is our own.
    • Excellent points, and worthy of a second vote for Best Answer!
      Kim M Robinson commented Nov 16, 2010 at 12:48PM
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    answered Nov 16, 2010 at 12:05PM
    I still have personally mixed feelings about "physician-assisted suicide" (PAS)even as practiced under the laws of the states of Washington and Oregon. One way of looking at PAS is that the physician is providing an unloaded gun and bullets to the patient in the form of a prescription for a potential lethal dose of medication, if the patient decides at some time to swallow them all at once. The physician is not in the execution room and not facilitating a immutable pathway for death. So in this regard I don't think of the role of the physician as analogous. Now whether the decision of the physician and a second physician that the writing of the prescription is appropriate for the patient's clinical state and meets the standards set by law could be considered similar to the physician who informs the court and prison system that the patient is in a satisfactory mental capacity to be allowed to be executed is the point which concerns me. I know that this issue is not the issue presented in the Question, but comments on my concern would be appreciated. ..Maurice.
    • It is an excellent point, Dr. Bernstein, because we are addressing the difficult decisions that physicians must make that challenge their training, and involve the life and death of a patient or a prisoner. In both situations, government has sanctioned physician participation by law.
      Kim M Robinson commented Nov 16, 2010 at 12:46PM
    • Maurice,
      I remember the maxim I was taught early in my education: if possible, cure, if a cure is not possible, palliate and if that isn't possible, at least comfort. It is into this last category that PAS falls, and falls AT THE REQUEST of a cogent patient. On the other hand, I believe it is a very personal decision for each physician to make. Since we are dealing with a cogent patient's request to provide the "comfort" of death, the individual physician must decide whether it is morally acceptable for them, personally, to do so. If not, they have a right, or even an obligation to refuse, but
      Eric E Shore DO, JD, MBA commented Nov 16, 2010 at 01:47PM
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    answered Nov 16, 2010 at 01:48PM
    Maurice,
    I remember the maxim I was taught early in my education: if possible, cure, if a cure is not possible, palliate and if that isn't possible, at least comfort. It is into this last category that PAS falls, and falls AT THE REQUEST of a cogent patient. On the other hand, I believe it is a very personal decision for each physician to make. Since we are dealing with a cogent patient's request to provide the "comfort" of death, the individual physician must decide whether it is morally acceptable for them, personally, to do so. If not, they have a right, or even an obligation to refuse, but the patient has an equal right to seek other medical care.
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    answered Nov 16, 2010 at 02:07PM
    Correct, Eric, but a prisoner facing execution, with physician participation, is not seeking "the comfort of death", and has no right to seek other options. Therefore, the only choice in the death penalty case is whether the physician wishes to work for the prison system or not. Refusing to participate is not an option for both prisoner and physician, in states where the death penalty exists by law. Barring medical board sanctions, conscience is the last resort.
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    answered Nov 16, 2010 at 08:03PM
    Kim,
    That was exactly my point. As for working for the prison system being a mandate for a physician to participate in executions, that isn't true. It was established long ago that a government agency cannot force people to do anything that is against their conscience. That was the concept behind Conscientious Objectors when there was a draft. The job of a physician working for the prison system is to care for the inmates' medical needs, not to participate in their execution,

    On the other hand, the line begins to blur when they are asked to improve the health or mental state of a prisoner so that an execution can be legally carried out. That, I suspect would pose both moral and employment conundrums. I don't think I could do it, but it could well be grounds for the Department of Corrections to at least attempt to terminate their employment. I believe a court would require the DOC to allow them to keep their job without participating in such care, but it could be a fight; and an interesting case to be involved in.
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    answered Nov 16, 2010 at 08:58PM
    Actually, and I am sure this has been discussed and debated elsewhere, but when one really comes down to the purpose of a physician normalizing the mental state of the death row prisoner or documenting the normality for execution, one wonders whether that purpose is logical and rational. First, what is the purpose of executing the criminal? It certainly isn't to teach the criminal anything about the need not to repeat the crime since the criminal will be dead and will never have a chance to put this education to work. So, if this isn't the purpose, educating the criminal, then, as a broader purpose, as it is often stated, is to educate the public about the consequences and prevent others from engaging in similar criminal activities. The question then follows, if not education of the criminal to be put to death, what difference does it make whether the mental state of the criminal is altered or is normal. It is the act of execution and its alleged effect on others that is important. Then, what is the need for a physician to normalize the mind of the criminal or establish mental competency prior to execution? Whatever impact the execution will make on "criminals to be" will be just as powerful or weak regardless of the mental state of the one to be executed.

    Therefore, what I think is happening is that society has it's logic totally mixed up and is causing harm to the profession of medicine. Society is requiring a physician to perform an unprofessional activity in treatment and evaluation prior to execution when such treatment and evaluation is not needed to support society's value given to the execution. Can there be any other reason for this illogic? Don't tell me our modern society is still operating on the expression "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" irrationality? And to accomplish that, well, the ethical behavior of some professional physician is expendable. Please say that isn't what is happening! ..Maurice.
    • What I am implying in my last concern is that society wants the criminal to be clearly aware of what is about to happen to his or her life just before execution, as if that will be the societal value of the exercise. ..Maurice.
      Maurice Bernstein MD commented Nov 16, 2010 at 09:09PM
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    answered Nov 16, 2010 at 11:39PM
    I too oppose the death penalty. For those interested, see the article "Incarceration Nation" and the accompanying slide show which outlines the history of the death penalty and arguements against its use at http://phsj.org/the-criminal-justice-system/

    martin
    Martin Donohoe, MD, FACP
    Adjunct Associate Professor, School of Community Health
    Portland State University
    Chief Science Advisor, Campaign for Safe Foods and
    Member, Board of Advisors
    Oregon Physicians for Social Responsibility
    Senior Physician, Internal Medicine, Kaiser Sunnyside Medical Center
    http://www.publichealthandsocialjustice.org
    http://www.phsj.org
    martindonohoe@phsj.org
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    answered Nov 17, 2010 at 06:30AM
    Maurice,
    There are many legal treatises available regarding the periodic swings in our penal system from rehabilitative to retributive; the death penalty, although purporting to serve both functions, unfortunately serves only as "biblical" retribution. There has never been a proven link between execution and the prevention of future crime (except by that individual, of course). Let me bring up an additional thought that your previous answer triggers, though.

    We supposedly changed from hanging, electrocution, etc. to lethal injection as a more "humane" method of execution. A prisoner who is sufficiently mentally incapacitated would not understand what is happening to him or her, however, and therefore be without the fear that would accompany the act of execution. If a physician improves a prisoner's mental state prior to execution, they are inherently (and knowingly) increasing the prisoner's fear, and thus causing them more pain and suffering than would otherwise be the case. This seems to be not only inhumane and unethical, but to fly in the face of the basic tenets upon which the medical profession has based its actions since its inception, and the oath we take at every medical school graduation.
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    answered Nov 17, 2010 at 09:15AM
    The fact remains, that 37 jurisdictions, including the US Military and Federal Government, have the death penalty, the majority of public opinion is in favor, and in all of those states and two other jurisdictions, there are physicians and nurses participating in executions. The fact remains, that 12% of the US population is African American, and 41 % of death row inmates are African American. The fact remains, that reviewed DNA and other evidence has exonerated enough inmates to rationally question the continued existence of the death penalty, but it continues:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States

    However, an ethical personal dilemma might present itself if someone you or I know is murdered by a psychopathic criminal. It is easy to be against the death penalty, or ethically pure, when once removed. Take the example of the physician who recently lost his wife, two daughters, and nearly his own life, at the hands of two criminals who received the death penalty. The physician wanted the death penalty as judgement on the heinous crime, and I am wondering if he would justify physician participation in the executions when carried out, if asked.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20022097-504083.html

    http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/6789102-connecticut-home-invasion-rape-murder-and-arson

    It is crimes like this that probably justify a prison physician's participation in executions in his or her own mind, if he or she has a conscience as most physicians do, and if it isn't "just a job". Does this case influence your opinion?
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    answered Nov 17, 2010 at 09:58AM
    Kim,
    The question you raise is the one that is raised by death penalty advocates each time they run out of logical arguments (i.e. "you wouldn't be against the death penalty if someone you love was killed . . ."). They confuse personal wrath with societal rights. The answer is simple; I would still be against the death penalty, but probably not against the death of THAT criminal.

    No one can foresee their actions in such a case. I might go "off the deep end," buy a gun and kill them myself, even knowing the consequences, just to exact revenge. In fact, that would probably be more satisfying than watching them simply go to sleep on a gurney; I'd want them to suffer! In the case you mentioned involving the doctor's family, I think I would have gone after them myself and I doubt there is a jury in the country that would have convicted me. That would not, however, make my act legal.

    Many people in the world probably do not deserve to live because of the horror they've caused others, but I, personally, have no right to kill them because of it. Therefore, a society which bases it's laws upon the sovereignty of the individual citizen (such as the US), except to the minimum extent required to provide protection for those citizens, should have no more right to take a life, except in self defense, than I do as an individual. Our nation, after all, is nothing more than an aggregate of its citizens. Life without parole provides such protection, and still leaves open the door for a pardon if we later find out we're wrong; execution and the grave do not.
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    answered Nov 17, 2010 at 01:45PM
    I strongly recommend Naseem Rakha's The Crying Tree, which directly addresses in a moving and often surprising way the issue of how one might react if a member of one's own family is killed
    martin
    Martin Donohoe, MD, FACP
    Adjunct Associate Professor, School of Community Health
    Portland State University
    Chief Science Advisor, Campaign for Safe Foods and
    Member, Board of Advisors
    Oregon Physicians for Social Responsibility
    Senior Physician, Internal Medicine, Kaiser Sunnyside Medical Center
    http://www.publichealthandsocialjustice.org
    http://www.phsj.org
    martindonohoe@phsj.org
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    answered Nov 17, 2010 at 03:35PM
    From:
    http://www.canadaviews.ca/2010/11/03/study-of-doctors-and-the-death-penalty-garners-award-from-medical-journal/

    Study of doctors and the death penalty garners award from medical journal:

    From:
    http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/41/9/9.1.full

    “The vast majority of physicians do not know what the AMA policy is on this, and they think they are helping the authorities and making the death of these prisoners more comfortable or peaceful, [a goal that] supports the code of medical ethics. All the while they are in violation of the code of ethics,”

    From:
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/274679

    Physician in charge of Washington State's Prison Inmates Takes Stand Against Death Penalty
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    answered Nov 26, 2010 at 01:51PM
    I'm afraid I have nothing to add to the excellent responses that have been posted to this question. I do have a few general comments I would like to offer with your permission:

    -First of all, why are doctors, who have an oath that should prevent them from participating in such an event, needed to instill the 'serum of vengeance' in the first place? Anyone can learn to insert an IV, push a button and check for the absence of life. Is it merely because someone thought it should be a law that a doctor be involved? I wonder if it was a doctor who suggested that.

    - I too am perplexed as to why the accused prisoner must be mentally capable of sustaining maximum suffering. Is that to assure society that the prisoner is capable of atonement if they wish? Or is it to make sure we get the biggest bang for our buck in suffering for the crime?

    - How often do we hear 'Eye for an eye...' as Maurice pointed out, when justifying the death penalty? Will we never understand that 'Eye for an eye...' was never about assuring vengeance, it was a plea to not inflict more harm than was suffered!?

    - The imaginary money saved by executing a human being as opposed to 'housing' them for a lifetime will never reimburse society for the loss of humanity we have suffered by allowing it to go on. Not to mention the incredible mental and spiritual anguish that is suffered by all involved when the innocence of the executed is proven when it’s too late.

    - I have heard about the desire of our society to maintain the death penalty but I wonder what that desire is based on? And I wonder who they asked?

    - It is indeed a slippery slope when we allow laws to dictate our medical ethics. It is obvious that we physicians cannot hold ourselves above laws; yet laws cannot be used to ease our conscience when we ignore the oath that we use to professionally guide us, and provide us with moral clarity.
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    answered Nov 26, 2010 at 10:19PM
    Art, you answer for all thinking people where the death penalty is concerned. While laws may mandate that a physician participate, I can not imagine any but the most specious rationale attempting to justify it. Moreover, the argument that "we were just following the law" was attempted at Nuremberg by judges in NAZI Germany. It failed there, and continues to fail. The military has made it clear that it is illegal to follow an illegal order just as the civil rights movement demonstrated that it is will ultimately be considered illegal to follow an immoral law.

    Fortunately, both Supreme Court decisions and state legislatures are increasingly circumscribing the death penalty and, with a little bit of luck it will soon disappear from the US and make our debate moot.
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    answered Nov 27, 2010 at 02:56PM
    Dr. Caylor receives my third vote for "Best Answer".

    This is an excellent article from the American Medical News in February 2010:
    http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/2010/02/22/prsb0222.htm


    "Only two states, Illinois and Kentucky, specifically bar physicians from the death chamber.

    Few states follow AMA ethics

    Of the 35 states that allow the death penalty, only seven incorporate AMA ethics policy, which includes an opinion barring doctors from taking an active role in the death chamber.

    Kentucky
    Maryland
    Mississippi
    Nebraska
    New Hampshire
    Ohio
    Tennessee"
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    answered Jan 05, 2011 at 09:23AM
    There are many excellent points, and I really like Art's points. Really insightful.

    I am against the death penalty, and I do think it's unethical for doctors -- who are supposed to save lives -- to end them when it comes to criminals.

    Factor in all the innocent people who have been executed, and this is quite a moral quandary for doctors. However, I'm not suggesting that innocent people deserve to live more than those who commit the crimes. I believe we are in no position to judge whether someone should live or die for crimes.
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    answered Jan 05, 2011 at 09:58AM
    Thanks, Beth, for your contribution. There was a news item that some of you may have noticed yesterday, that an inmate (African American) in prison for 37 years was just released in Texas, as DNA and other evidence reviewed by a new (African American) DA and his team, exonerated him. That was in Dallas County. According to the Dallas County DA, another 25 cases are currently under review in Dallas County alone:

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june11/texascase_01-04.html
    http://www.utdallas.edu/news/2009/02/18-001.php

    In all my viewing of criminal justice and forensics programs, and I am a big fan of them, I have never seen such an honorable DA committed to prosecuting serious crimes as well as protecting or exonerating the innocent. It is a credit to the citizens of Dallas County to be so progressive.

    As long as one innocent person in prison, or especially on Death Row, is exonerated by evidence review, I will never be in favor of the death penalty or those who facilitate it, including doctors.
    Not even the most heinous criminal act, rightfully prosecuted by evidence, could convince me otherwise. And for a period of years I was in favor of the death penalty, believe it or not.
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    answered Jan 05, 2011 at 09:59AM
    " I believe we are in no position to judge whether someone should live or die for crimes"
    Beth, when you write "we" are you referring to society, the judge, the jury or to the family of the deceased victim. I think it is important to think about the beginnings of the death penalty in a particular case. Do you think it is fair behavior within the justice system for the family to express their desires regarding the death penalty when the decision is put before the judge of the case?
    When a judge gives a death penalty decision to a case to what extent do you think it reflects the views of the family? And if it does, should it? And, if it doesn't, shouldn't it? ..Maurice
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    answered Jan 05, 2011 at 08:53PM
    Kim, thank you for your eloquent points. Yes, I heard about that exonerated man. Imagine if he were put to death!

    Maurice, thank you for bringing up such thoughtful questions. There's no easy answer, but by "we," I mean everyone: society, judges, the family of the deceased victim, etc.

    Who has the right to take the life of a person? I understand that the victim's family may seek the death penalty, but that's because of vengeance or because that's their view of justice -- an eye for an eye. I guess whether a family helps determine a death penalty case varies from case to case, and while a family has a right to express their views to the judge and jury, that doesn't mean that this should determine a death sentence.

    As we all know, a death penalty is such a serious matter. I just cannot approve of a system that puts innocent and guilty people to death. I don't think our legal system has the right to decide to kill a person.
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    answered Jan 05, 2011 at 09:30PM
    I have seen DAs interviewed on criminal justice programs who stated they were influenced by family members of crime victims, visavis whether or not to seek the death penalty. Is this any different from a family influencing a judge? Also, victim impact statements, including by family, friends, and other members of society, are often read to the court before a judge pronounces sentence on the accused. I am in favor of this, as it indicates to the accused (if guilty) the harm done by his or her act. Would be interesting to know how much victim impact statements influence judges or juries in sentencing, as opposed to scientific and other evidence......
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    answered Jan 06, 2011 at 12:50PM
    The issue of victim impact statements is a difficult one. I suspect their main purpose is to allow the victim or family to "vent," not to justify a sentence. That should be determined by the nature of the crime as well as the nature of the convicted criminal (e.g. age, background,education, etc.). Moreover, while I believe that victim impact statements have a place in our criminal justice system and should be considered by a judge and/or jury before sentence is passed, no such statement can ever justify state sanctioned killing (my opinion).

    Let me throw one other scenario out to those writing here. Suppose the death penalty is totally eliminated and a murderer, serving a life sentence without parole kills someone while in prison (a guard, another prisoner . . .). Since he or she would already be serving the maximum sentence allowed by law, any further killings would essentially be "free." Should this be the single case in which a death penalty should be allowed? Would it deter such a criminal from further murders?
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    answered Jan 06, 2011 at 01:15PM
    Not that I support the death penalty for this situation, it does make one think. This is the most plausible utilitarian argument in favor of the death penalty. Adding another murder to your crimes in prison could lead to the withdrawal of certain privileges, but imagine one is a serial prison murderer, then beyond lifelong solitary confinement, there would not be much the criminal justice system could do, plus a lot of other people have died instead of the one death via capital punishment. This scenario would, however, be extremely rare.
    martin
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    answered Jan 06, 2011 at 03:27PM
    And..and.. and. (related to the original question of the title here ).would this exception as interestingly suggested by Eric and possibly supported by Martin be the only exception where a physician participating in the execution process of such a criminal would be considered professionally ethically acceptable? Or are there no exceptions for the relationship of trust between the doctor and the person to which the doctor attends? Hmmn? ..Maurice.
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    answered Jan 06, 2011 at 04:36PM
    Maurice,
    I don't believe there are any exceptions that would justify a physician taking part in an execution. As someone who believes the death penalty should become one more nearly forgotten relic of humanity's barbaric history, I merely threw this out as the single conundrum with which I have wrestled in thinking about its elimination. As physicians, we have an obligation, not just to our individual patients, but to society as a whole. Therefore, as citizens in addition to physicians, I wonder if this should be the single exception to a ban on the death penalty. Moreover, if we believe it should, then we need to reconsider our "ethics."

    The person who eats meat cannot pretend to abstain from killing animals because he or she didn't actually wield the instrument of death. If we were to vote to allow this exception, then we must also accept our responsibility for it and not hide behind professional polemics and sweeping ethical pronouncements. Personally, I don't believe there should be an exception since I believe many would find the prospect of lifelong isolation in prison less tolerable than death. Perhaps lifelong solitary confinement is, after all, the ultimate punishment, and one that many prisoners would prefer death to after enduring it for some time.

    This begs the final question, though; whether the mental anguish of such punishment could be so severe, that it could warrant writing a prescription for a lethal dose of a drug with which the prisoner could end their own life as some are allowed to do when faced with a painful terminal illness. Thus, we have come full circle.
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    answered Jan 06, 2011 at 07:07PM
    Eric, since I, personally, am against physician-assisted suicide, I would hope that the prison officials, themselves, obtain the lethal dose of the drug to offer that prisoner in solitary confinement. Surely, they can do that rather than involving a physician and a prescription writing exercise.. Obviously, there is no legal problem for these same officials obtaining the lethal barbiturate along with a drug to paralyze respiration and a cardiac lethal dose of potassium as the intravenous killing potion. If society finds it is legal to kill that prisoner, it is equally legal, I would think, to assist in his or her suicide and without a physician. ..Maurice.
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    answered Jan 06, 2011 at 11:33PM
    Actually, Maurice, it is even simpler than that. Congress or a state legislature can simply vote to authorize their purchase of the drugs or, if the statute is written broadly enough, give an agency the authority to grant the Department of Corrections (what are they correcting with the death penalty?) the right to buy the drugs. Therefore, you're right that no physician would need to be involved. On the other hand, if you are a citizen of the United States, you have both a right and an obligation to peaceably protest that which you find objectionable. Moreover, as citizens we are all equally responsible for the deeds of our government and therefore each of us is constructively involved in any execution that takes place. Therefore, those of us who are against the death penalty for a variety of reasons need to become as vociferous as possible to make ourselves heard.

    Finally, while I do not agree with your position regarding physician assisted suicide, I admit that I personally would have a difficult time with such prescriptions, and would probably never do it. It would make me feel "uncomfortable." My comfort level, however, should not determine public policy. I believe it is, ultimately, the patient's choice regarding when to die. As long as we use the best available safeguards to prevent an assisted suicide, requested because of something like depression from being granted, I have no moral, ethical or legal objections to authorizing a terminally ill patient to shorten their own life. And if they are granted such authority after all investigations are concluded, I have no moral, ethical or legal objections to a physician who, in many cases will have an established relationship with the patient, prescribing such drugs. It follows, then, that being comforting throughout the patient's remaining days should also be a large part of the process and physicians who do assist suicide should not be allowed to abdicate this role because it makes them uncomfortable either.
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    answered Jan 07, 2011 at 10:31AM
    Is there a moral or ethical difference between a physician being in favor of prison officials giving a younger and otherwise healthy solitary confinement prisoner a lethal dose of potassium chloride in order to end mental anguish, and the physician participatory execution in a death penalty case? Or is it a way to "save face", while standing by as others facilitate what amounts to suicide? Prisoners find ways to avoid the pain of prison all the time, and successfully. Perhaps prison officials or guards passively facilitate such actions in a number of cases. As I understand it, the euthanasia laws in Washington and Oregon stipulate that one choosing that route must be within six months (more or less I imagine) from dying of a terminal illness. Similarity or difference?
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    answered Jan 07, 2011 at 10:49AM
    Kim, there is a single but immensely important difference; the choice of whether to take the lethal dose of a drug is made by the prisoner and not the state. A prisoner who is executed has no choice in the matter; one who chooses suicide does. Moreover, while the death with dignity legislation in states that have adopted it have strict criteria regarding the circumstances surrounding their application, those statutes would not apply in this scenario. It would be an additional statute that would specifically allow the choice for prisoners in this hypothetical situation. Please remember that I am not necessarily advocating this position, simply "throwing it out for discussion."

    As for the difference between allowing prison officials to administer lethal drugs and physicians doing it themselves, I agree that it is intellectual fraud to pretend there is a difference if you are still taking part in the process. On the other hand, where no physician is involved at all, including ordering the drug, administering it, and checking for death, our professional ethics are preserved. We then need only worry about our personal and societal ethics, as citizens, in allowing the death penalty to persist in the US in the 21st century.
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