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    answered Sep 15 at 06:54PM
    I have never seen any actual data to support this.
    The company makes a claim that their small particle size make the drug penetrate the "smallest of the airways" in the lungs.
    BUT
    Their own literature states "THE CLINICAL EFFICACY OF BETTER LUNG DEPOSITION IS UNKNOWN".
    Save your money and buy a good generic.
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    answered Sep 15 at 06:56PM
    PS.......
    I just read your bio, you are one extraordinary person.
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    answered Sep 29 at 07:47AM
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    Stephen
    Hope you are doing okay. The literature on particle deposition is actually pretty good for Qvar. It does get much better overall delivery to lungs, which means larger amts to small airways (and alveoli). One small study (Annals Allergy) did show that adding Qvar to Flovent, as opposed to increasing the FLovent, produced slightly better symptom and lung function changes, particularly in measures of small airways. But, OBVIOUSLY each person's dissease is slightly different and there ar no guarantees that this will work.
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    answered Sep 29 at 08:20AM
    Thanks Dr. Wenzel, I got my primary care doc to write me the Rx for QVAR . Im going to try it for 3-4 months to see if it makes a difference.
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    answered Sep 29 at 07:21PM
    I have to take exception on the response made by Dr. Wenzel.
    I do not agree that the literature on “particle deposition is pretty good for Qvar” as Dr. Wenzel suggests. First of all the literature in peer-reviewed, reputable journals is almost non-existent for Qvar.
    Please remember the companies own literature states "THE CLINICAL EFFICACY OF BETTER LUNG DEPOSITION IS UNKNOWN.” They would never have written this statement if in-fact there was any literature out there supporting their product.
    Dr. Wenzel states that a small study showed that adding Qvar to Flovent seemed to work better than Flovent alone in higher doses. Well, I have not read this study and for that matter can't find this study but other studies have shown just the opposite or have come to no conclusion at all on the efficacy of the Qvar.
    Dr. Wenzel is without question an expert in this area and I respect her opinion but I would think that quoting a study that adds one inhaled steroid on top of another inhaled steroid and comparing this regimen to the efficacy of the single drug at higher dosages would be difficult if not impossible to prove any sort of superiority between the 2 regimens.

    Just my 2 cents worth (or maybe 4cents worth)
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    answered Sep 30 at 06:06AM
    Thanks everyone for your responses! Well, I guess I'll make myself a lab rat on this one. I'm gonna go ahead and try the Qvar for 2 months and then Flovent + Qvar for an additional month. If I see any improvement in my symptoms, I'll stick with the Qvar, if not, I'll go back to using Advair or just plain Flovent. I have pretty severe asthma, so I'm not really sure any of these drugs are helping me.

    I'll report back on this in a few months.
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    answered Sep 30 at 01:47PM
    While I agree that the package insert cannot support better clinical efficacy related to better lung deposition (from an FDA perspective) there are certainlly several deposition studies which do strongly support better deposition (Several articles by Leach, etal, starting with paper in ERJ in 1998). It is highly likely that deposition in mild asthma makes very little difference. The disease tends to be more central, and even very low levels of ICS can improve symptoms and FEV1. The deposition issue is likely to be more important in severe asthma. Deposition studies have shown that particles distribution is dependent on level of obstruction, with less peripheral deposition in general, with increasing obstruction. Unfortunately, the right clinical trial, comparing deposition and efficacy in severe asthma has never been done, hence, the FDA making certain the company does not claim a difference. The small clinical trial that I referred to was indeed published in the Journal of Asthma in 2005, with Dr. Harold Nelson as senior author. Yes, it is a small pilot study, but the results are in fact intriguing, with HFA-beclomethasone added in very similar quantity to the increase in CFC fluticasone giving a more robust increase in measures of small airway function. A large scale clinical trial should be done in patients with more severe asthma, where the deposition MIGHT matter more. The new AsthmaNet network would be a perfect place to do that trial. In the meantime, as someone who sees alot of these very severely obstructed patients, I will continue to "anecdotally" report that in perhaps 30-40% of people, the addition of 160-320 mcg of HFA-beclomethasone to combination therapy, makes a difference in clinically relevant outcomes, including need for oral steroids. This effect "appears" to be different from just increasing the fluticasone. Although the large scale randomized clinical trial must be done, these severe asthmatic patients currently have almost no additional therapeutic options available. HFA-beclomethasone is both reasonably inexpensive (compared to anti-IgE for instance), safe (compared to oral steroids)and has the potential to improve outcomes. I believe it is worth a try. By the way, I am not in any way conflicted with the company that makes HFA-beclomethasone.
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