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    answered Sep 26 at 08:59AM
    Let us start with the earliest alleged abuse first. How does one define "child abuse" when the child is a pre-term or term fetus and what are the moral and legal responsibilities of the mother to that fetus. In answering Kim's question, one must consider society's response, in the United States and perhaps elsewhere, to acts during pregnancy by the mother which have shown immediate damage to the fetus or disorders which will continue thru birth and beyond. These actions include the mother taking cocaine or other illicit drugs, alcohol, smoking as examples. Also, other issues society has considered has been the pregnant mother participating in activities of daily living which may lead to injury to the fetus such as driving without proper seat restraints, motorcycle riding and other risk taking activities and not following professional prenatal instructions. And then is the case of the pregnant mother who "accidentally" fell down steps and was arrested. (http://news.change.org/stories/pregnant-iowa-woman-arrested-for-falling-down)

    So, shouldn't we first decide at what point the allegedly abused individual is accepted as a "child" before further discussion of Kim's important question? Or can we now discuss the ethics and the associated dilemmas of acts in the pre-natal period? ..Maurice.
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    answered Sep 30 at 10:00AM
    Thank you Maurice. I work on the front lines in child abuse, as a social services professional. Further on in the continuum of child abuse and medicine, I can think of the following issues, if they are not actually dilemmas. Your points are excellent. Also, a few to mention are:

    1. Medical confidentiality and adult patient care versus legal duty to report child abuse
    2. Lack of training by emergency room staff or even family doctors, in signs or indicators of child abuse and what to do about it
    3. Judgement or discrimination in why it occurs, such as delinquent teenagers, or "out of control" children "deserving" strong discipline
    4. Cultural or religious acceptance or non acceptance of child abuse, or more specifically, its definition, rather than a standardized approach, including by medical professionals
    5. Lack of coordination between medical staff, law enforcement, criminal justice, and social services
    6. Conflict of interest in whether adults or children, especially when combined in a mother's womb, are primary or secondary in terms of treatment
    7. Biggie where I live - harm reduction versus cessation in drug or alcohol use during pregnancy as well as first year of child's life, when attachment and bonding are vital for future development
    8. Role of the state, provincial, or federal government, in enforcing child abuse standards and the medical profession and corollary fields such as social services
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    answered Sep 30 at 08:06PM
    An interesting twist to the source of "abuse" is to attach the consequences of the action of physicians. An example of this twist is in regard to #4..sometimes the religious parents believe that the "abuse" is any prolongation of the God determined death of a child by the medical profession.. and so if a child is critically ill, those parents would feel that it is right to allow the child to die as God would have wanted. A specific example of this religious behavior is that of the Oregon's Followers of Christ, a faith-healing church that advocates leaving human fate in the hands of God and the current conviction of a husband and wife for the second-degree manslaughter in the 2009 death of their son.
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/09/oregon-couple-convicted-in-sons-faith-healing-death.html
    Obviously, what is considered "abuse" and who is the abuser is in the eyes of the beholder: in this case: the state of Oregon and I suppose one could also mention another beholder: God (well, at least in the minds of that Oregon religious couple.) ..Maurice.
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    answered Oct 01 at 09:54AM
    I would like to push the envelope a bit. In much of what you are saying, Maurice, it is the parents or even God, for reasons of irresponsibility, addictions, parental rights, or religion, that doctors have to contend with in assessing whether a situation is child abuse. But do doctors themselves play a role at times in condoning or turning a blind eye, or due to ignorance, in child abuse recognition and action to prevent or treat? I have alluded to some aspects of physician responsibility in my points, but am seeking some self reflection from physicians as well.
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