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Is pain just a symptom? Can pain be a disease in and of itself?

62 yr old, Male
62 yr old, Male
asked Mar 08, 2010 at 10:16AM in General Medicine
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    answered Mar 08, 2010 at 10:36AM
    Treating pain as a disease and not just a symptom
    http://www.pharmaphorum.com/2009/08/26/treating-pain-as-a-disease-and-not-just-a-symptom/

    The treatment of chronic pain is recognised as one of the largest unmet needs in the medical community. Neuropathic pain, a form of chronic pain, is caused by lesions to the nervous system resulting from trauma/compression, infection, metabolic disease, toxic chemicals, or other insults that generate prolonged abnormal changes in the nervous system function (Costigan et al 2009). Common symptoms of neuropathic pain include spontaneous, burning pain and pain hypersensitivity. This manifests as either an exaggerated response to a mildly painful stimulus (hyperalgesia) or pain resulting from a normally non-painful input (allodynia). Current treatment options remain inadequate either due to low efficacy or significant side effect burden. Over the last 20 years, no new pain targets have been successfully exploited to treat this debilitating condition, despite massive investment from the pharmaceutical industry.
    Now is the time to look at pain and its treatment in a different way. Pain is traditionally associated with medical conditions like diabetes, cancer and neurological dysfunction and treatments are largely aimed at symptom relief. As a result, less attention is made to the pathological processes that underlie pain, its initiation and development. Over recent years, it has emerged that damage to peripheral or central nerves results in changes that alter neuronal plasticity and nociceptor pathways, all ultimately responsible for pain and sensory amplification. Furthermore, multiple mechanisms are implicated in the manifestation of neuropathic pain, including genetic and environmental factors, so that identification of novel approaches to treating chronic pain requires careful evaluation of these multiple inputs. The role of glial cells in chronic pain has emerged over the last 10 years and has brought a new level of complexity to pain biology. The knowledge, however, that highly integrated neuro-immune interactions in the central nervous system play a key role in the cellular mechanisms responsible for the development of chronic pain has opened up additional opportunities for new medicines. Mapping a way through these complex processes is essential in the quest for new treatments. Translational research, linking pain in humans to preclinical pain models, is an essential component of drug discovery and should lead to the identification of new medicines to treat this underserved medical need.
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    Doc Suske510Editor
    answered Mar 08, 2010 at 11:21AM
    Pain is a symptom- however prolonged pain is defined as chronic pain- if no cause for this pain can be found, then the pain itself becomes a diagnosis- diagnosis of chronic pain then becomes a "disease", which may be difficult to "cure".
    Doc
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    answered Mar 08, 2010 at 01:43PM
    As physicians, we are motivated to find the etiology (cause) of any condition. However, as pointed out by Dr Suske, the symptom can be be classified as a disease if no cause can befound. The classic example is fibromyagia. There are many symptoms, yet no measurable findings.
    However, we can classify pain. We can use many modifiers to compare it. And the International Cassification Of Diseases has a code classification for it

    338.2 Chronic pain
    Excludes:
    causalgia (355.9)
    lower limb (355.71)
    upper limb (354.4)
    chronic pain syndrome (338.4)
    myofascial pain syndrome (729.1)
    neoplasm related chronic pain (338.3)
    reflex sympathetic dystrophy (337.20-337.29)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    338.4 Chronic pain syndrome
    Chronic pain associated with significant psychosocial dysfunction
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    answered Mar 15, 2010 at 11:51AM
    This is a very interesting, and in Australia, very topical conversation. The National Pain Summit was on this last week at Parliament House in Canberra. It is an initiative of a few people and the driving force behind it is Prof Michael Cousins' desire to get better outcomes for people in pain. A key tennet of his proposal is that chronic pain be recognised as a disease in its own right. I endorse the sentiment behind this - chronic pain is clearly under-researched, under-treated and its sufferer's neglected, at least in comparison to chronic diseases such as OA, diabetes, COPD etc - however i would still argue that the chronic pain is not the disease, but is still a symptom of the brain's conviction that a body part needs protecting. Clearly changes in the sensitivity of nociceptive and pain networks significantly contributes to pain, but there are people with those changes who don't hurt, so we can't really say that those changes mean chronic pain which can therefore be considered a disease. I think we run a risk of moving from a Descartian understanding of pain that considers it analagous to nociception or injury, to a Descartion understanding of pain that considers it analagous to central and cortical sensitisation. Both, in my view, are wrong. So, while i strongly endorse the need to get out of the tissues and understand that pain due to tissue damage feels the same, exactly the same, as pain due to upregulation of protective neural networks, i don't think calling chronic pain a disease is accurate.
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    answered Mar 15, 2010 at 10:18PM
    Hi Frank. I found your question interesting also. Traditionally, pain has been viewed as an acute symptom of some other injury or disease. What we have been learning about chronic pain over the last couple of decades has broadened that considerably. If an individual suffers with pain for a period of time and in spite of visits to professionals, is not examined or treated beyond the injury or disease underlying the pain, it can give rise to a whole new disorder, i.e. chronic pain. With this knowledge in hand, it is important for physicians to be as aggressive in dealing with pain, as they are with other symptoms/disorders. What I believe we are seeing so much more of is patients who started with pain and after a period of time with inadequate treatment, the pain appears to change the brain's chemistry in ways that contribute to "chronic pain states."

    With this knowledge in hand and research increasing, there is an opportunity to 1) adequately reduce the patient's pain in the beginning and 2) potentially thwart a situation which allows the brain chemistry to become so altered that this patient must rely on stronger medications to achieve a quality of life.

    Somewhere in that time period, pain becomes a sydrome (or medical disease) in and of itself.

    This is a timely question on so many levels. There are patients who fear asking for help in the early stages of pain. Some are fearful that they may be viewed as "drug-seeking" or maybe they heard the news about a famous person who lost their life to some form of pain medication. In addition, there appear to be physicians who discount the importance of the information they receive from their patients about the significance of the pain on the ability to work, to play an to plan. Other times, it comes down to a lack of clarity on what types of treatments work best for pain from different sources. Perhaps, this is augmented by less time to keep up with the research.

    From a human standpoint, I would assert that pain is always a state of disequilibrium, or dysfunction in the body. Although it may provide an important clue to some other health issue, by the very fact that it causes a degree of suffering, it should be reduced (treated) to help the patient to channel his/her energy towards recovery, if that is a viable option.

    Finally, there is the issue of cost. If patients were encouraged to communicate their pain as early as possible to a trusted physician, and that physician managed the pain aggressively and appropriately, there would be one instance of potentially reduced costs in future chronic pain treatment. Consider the numbers of patients who are diagnosed with chronic pain in this country (I am sorry that I cannot recall the number. It is very high). If these patients were aggressively treated for their pain, before the brain chemistry began malfunctioning, a lot of money could be used elsewhere in healthcare.

    Thanks for the opportunity to add my perspective. I am not a physician. I did work in health care for twenty-five years. I now have a chronic pain problem of my own (neuralgia), which was discounted for four years before I was properly diagnosed. Individuals who experience life-altering conditions have a lot to offer the medical industry. That is why I am here.

    My best to you,

    Victoria Grove
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    Doc Suske510Editor
    answered Mar 16, 2010 at 08:17AM
    To Dr Moseley:
    Both Dr Lane & I note chronic pain as a diagnosis & I referred to disease in quotes, so I definitely agree with you.
    We must address the diagnosis even if it not a "disease".

    To Victoria:
    Your story definitely supports the prevention of the diagnosis, by aggressively treating
    "non-chronic" pain before it becomes chronic (prevention is always better than treating, when possible).
    I agree with what you say.
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    answered Apr 06, 2010 at 01:11AM
    I agree with many of the comments regarding chronic pain as a disease in itself - to me it seems entirely logical that if we can have dysfunction of the pancreas and end up with diabetes, or dysfunction of indeed any other tissue, organ or system, it makes just as much sense that dysfunction of the pain 'systems' can also occur.

    On the other hand, I also think that pain can get the blame for long-standing problems when actually it's not the pain per se, but the attitudes and beliefs about the pain that create the problems (or disability). There are many people living well in the community despite having ongoing pain - and have no disability associated with it at all, while there are others with little or no reported pain intensity but significant disability that seek help for their pain - is it the pain, or the disability that needs attention?

    While I'm certainly keen to see people attend to acute pain as quickly and comprehensively as possible, I'm cautious about this. It's not simply about abolishing the pain in order to minimise the likelihood of central sensitisation and/or other peripheral problems from contributing to ongoing pain. It's also about addressing other mechanisms, both micro and macro, that contribute to disability. This usually seems to mean addressing psychosocial factors such as how the individual makes sense of or interprets his or her experiences, and the other contingencies operating in the person's life.

    My concern is that in the rush to 'find the cause' or 'abolish the pain', advocates of these biomedical approaches will find it difficult to incorporate these psychosocial and functional aspects that the literature has repeatedly found important.

    So, to answer the question, is chronic pain a disease in itself? I'd say yes - but not a disease with a single 'cause'.
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    Doc Suske510Editor
    answered Apr 06, 2010 at 09:21AM
    WOW- what a well thought out & excellent response.
    I still feel pain is a response, a symptom that can develop into a "diagnosis", but still feel it is not a "disease"- which usually has a defined cause & accepted/proven treatment(s).

    By this definition
    –noun

    "a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment."

    What you are saying could be an accurate depiction/opinion.
    However, diabetes has a known cause & well defined current treatments- not so with chronic pain. Which does not seem to have a "simple" single dysfunction.
    Also, everyone's capacity for & response to pain, is different & difficult to quantify.

    Certainly acute pain must be treated aggressively & rapidly, that means by ALL means possible- PT, Rx, psychosocial interventions & of course, proper diagnosis of cause.
    (removing &/or treating the cause is most important)

    So, my only disagreement would be that if you feel a "rush" to 'find the cause' or 'abolish the pain' is improper- I feel that is not so.

    And also I feel most "diseases" do indeed have 1 "cause".

    Pain HAS multiple causes & potentiating factors, & IS a symptom of many problems, until it becomes chronic & then must be diagnosed & treated aggressively & properly, using all resources available.
    (I had a private pain practice & in my office I had a psychologist, RN counselor, EMG testing, PT, 3 PT aides, OT, Lab (with tech) , ultrasound diagnostics & X-ray (with Tech) & frequently utilized social services & pastoral counselors, in my area).
    • Thanks for your thoughts and by and large I agree with you! I'm certain however, that many 'diseases' do have multiple contributing factors - while there may be a single virus that 'causes' the common cold, it's only expressed in individuals who happen to be vulnerable at that time; similarly with diabetes; similarly with even ankylosing spondylitis.

      The rush to find & abolish causes of pain can fail to address the way individuals process their experience. Some people may successfully have their pain abolished but still believe themselves at risk of harm and live a life of disability.
      Bronnie F Thompson Ms commented Apr 06, 2010 at 12:04PM
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    Doc Suske510Editor
    answered Apr 08, 2010 at 10:43AM
    I believe we should follow a holistic approach- see excellent comment copied below:
    Doc


    Brendan C Francis MD, FRSPH, FLS2,790Editor
    answered on Wed
    A Holistic Approach means that all factors are taken into account as a whole, interdependent on each other for the benefit of all.
    For example in medicine, The Holistic approach takes into account the physical, emotional (psychological) and social living conditions/needs of an individual/community inorder to get effective treatment of a condition/disease.Spiritual well being may also be taken into account.
    This article gives an example how this is done-" Holistic approach to Unhealthy Housing':

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/05/AR2010040503763.html
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