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Are some people with allergy driven nasal congestion simply incurable as far as symptoms go?

People with alternating runny/stuffy noses often remark that "nothing" their doctors have suggested were helpful in relieving symptoms. I wonder if some people are just not seeing the right doctor or are giving up on trying various treatment options too soon? OR, are there some people who really are "incurable"?
asked Apr 08, 2010 at 07:56AM in Allergies
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    answered Apr 08, 2010 at 01:35PM
    I experience stuffy nose in the morning. One nostril is always almost completely blocked, while the other is free. Which is blocked and which is free varies, probably depending on what side I sleep on. During the day inside the office (where air is conditioned and everything is constant), the nostrils randomly get stuffed or free up. Allegedly I'm allergic to dust mites (based on two intradermal tests), but one skin prick test showed I was not allergic to anything.

    Here what I've tried and hasn't worked:
    1. turbinate reduction surgery - for a few months I breathed better, but then things returned to usual.
    2. Omnaris + Astelin/Patanase for a month, 2 puffs of each in each nostril once a day. Didn't do anything.

    Here's what works for twelve hours:
    1. Afrin no drip - amazingly effective, but the label says don't use for more than 2 days in a row.
    2. A modified version of Afrin (Safeway generic nasal decongestant diluted with saline solution up to 85% of the bottle height) - works almost as well as Afrin, and a particular (respected) doctor told me that in this concentration, the solution can be used daily, and that his wife has been using that solution for 20 years just fine.

    Here's what works for a few hours:
    1. Exercising - 5 minutes of cardio unclog the nostrils.

    Here's what works for a few minutes
    1. Ricola candy
    2. Halls mints
    3. Similar candy/mints/breath fresheners
    • Thank you for the shared tips. I am still curious if there might be times when a doctor just "throws in the towel" after trying a few solutions that do not work.
      Julie Phelps commented Apr 09, 2010 at 05:40PM
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    answered Apr 09, 2010 at 11:04AM
    Starting with a histamin-free diet when having allergies is very important. The more histamin in the body, the more a stuffy nose follows. See also "Histamin-Intoleranz", Professor Reinhart Jarisch, Thieme Verlag.
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    answered Apr 09, 2010 at 05:38PM
    The suggested read by Professor Reinhart Jarisch seems to be available in German only! Thanks for the idea, and I will continue searching. My translator program seems to be having problems with it. Does anyone know about the availability of an English version?
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    answered Apr 09, 2010 at 09:17PM
    Julie,

    I'm sure there are good books (and websites) available in English.

    The trick, I think, is zeroing in on possible causes that might apply to you so you can identify good books on those topics. And for that, you need some general awareness about allergen sources. These include:

    1. Environmental: It seems that almost all commercial household cleaning products are heavy on the fragrance nowadays. Bathroom cleaners, laundry detergents and fabric softeners, floor cleaners, furniture polish. Not to mention all the personal care products -- soaps, shampoos, deodorants, conditioners, mousses, perfumes. These fragrances have known neurological effects as well as allergic effects. So, you could try eliminating all of these fragranced products in your living and work space. (Car, too!) There are plenty of books on how to use more benign products for cleaning, and most personal care products can be found in unscented versions.

    2. Food allergies: We're learning that more people than ever thought probable suffer from sensitivities to gluten, for example. Gluten, dairy, and other foods can add to histamine load in a way that might not seem apparent at the time of consumption but can lower the threshold for allergic reaction to pollen, dust, etc. So, you could investigate food allergies and try some modifications to your diet, eliminating some of the foods you eat most often and assessing if there is a positive effect.

    3. Mineral/vitamin deficiencies: As magnesium levels decline, for example, allergies and asthma increases.

    The most accurate user-friendly article I can find on allergies vis a vis diet, supplements, etc. is here:
    http://www.lef.org/protocols/immune_connective_joint/allergies_01.htm

    I hope you find this information helpful. Allergies can make one's life pretty miserable.

    Gina
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    answered Apr 10, 2010 at 10:21AM
    Thank you. Luckily, I am not the sufferer, but am close to the person who is, and who basically has given up on any solutions. He just uses lots of tissue, and lots of 4-way spray. He does not believe he is now making matters worse by prolonged use of the same spray. To be a nice person I am digesting this info and trying to present it to an individual who is resistant to food changes, among other things. My Goal is to convince him there might be something to try that will make the change in products or foods, etc., worthwhile due to finding relief from symptoms.
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    answered Apr 10, 2010 at 11:36AM
    Well, Julie. I'm no allergist, but from everything I've read from experts, some of those sprays used over the long-term can make matters worse.

    I might also add that people who "refuse" to change lifestyle habits (including diet) might have some other issue. For example, people with undiagnosed ADHD might lack the ability to plan, remember, and follow through on the best of intentions -- not to mention sorting through complex reading material. Coincidentally, it seems that people with ADHD have higher incidences of asthma and allergies, so this presents a sort of "double-whammy." I cannot cite studies on this, but having interacting with virtually thousands of people with ADHD by now (or their family members), this surely seems the case and meriting of study.

    Good luck with your persuasion! Maybe "baby steps" is the best plan. ;-)
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